I ended up buying one mock turtle neck and two turtleneck sweaters (Anthracite for Mock, and Navy/Green for turtlenecks) and the timing likely couldn't have been better for the purchase and worse for the weather. It is always nice to pull out a sweater for when we go out to a show, a movie, a concert or just dinner in the winter when it's nice to stay warm, but our warmth happened up in the PNW a few weeks before it should have, so I likely won't get to wear these until next fall/winter, but maybe on our trip to Canada later this year. They look great, even with my old man body and hide what needs to be hidden (belly), look great with jeans or leathers (so says my husband) :)